i choose to use gmail and to use google searches. i did not choose to hand my information over to the nsa. so the nsa is taking it without my permission. google is taking it because that's my price for doing business with them. >> they had 134,000 e-mails, data about his 2,000-plus contacts, knew what he searched for and what he talked to on the telephone, et cetera. et cetera. what do you think of that? >> well, if it's me, i would say the fbi's file on me is probably larger. that's what i'd be most worried about. look, no. i tend to agree here. and this idea, john, of individuals saying you can't have this or that, i don't know how that works when the nsa obviously isn't that interested in me. but some terrorist is going to say, i'd prefer if you fellows didn't have my phone records and all the rest of it. but, you know, i'm beginning to think that the congress of the united states should rightly take a look at this and sort of limit and we should argue out exactly what they can hold and how long. >> well, they are looking at it. a